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	<title>Comments on: Marcus Vorwaller: PersonalBrain vs. Mindmapping</title>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks about Mindmap</title>
		<link>http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks about Mindmap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - bookmarked by 5 members originally found by miiTeacup on 2008-12-18  Marcus Vorwaller: PersonalBrain vs. Mindmapping  http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/ - bookmarked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8211; bookmarked by 5 members originally found by miiTeacup on 2008-12-18  Marcus Vorwaller: PersonalBrain vs. Mindmapping  <a href="http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/" rel="nofollow">http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/</a> &#8211; bookmarked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: zenrain</title>
		<link>http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>zenrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange. Medium-sized project management (as stated by Vic) would indicate that the scope is limited in context and fairly isolated (isolated as in the specificity of it, not individuals using it). Although you can use MindManager or other mindmapping softwares to map out large and complex systems, eventually you run headfirst into the maps complexity making it hard to use.
I actually use PB less for brainstorming or relationship layout, and much more as a PIM.
I believe that Marcus has it right, in the context of using the best tools for the job. You can use MindManager for showing and interlinking huge amounts of information, and you could use PersonalBrain for laying out workflows and brainstorming, just as you can pound a screw in with a hammer.
The question is, if you already have a screwdriver, why would you want to?

Oh, and my feedback is based on a solid knowledge of both products and capabilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange. Medium-sized project management (as stated by Vic) would indicate that the scope is limited in context and fairly isolated (isolated as in the specificity of it, not individuals using it). Although you can use MindManager or other mindmapping softwares to map out large and complex systems, eventually you run headfirst into the maps complexity making it hard to use.<br />
I actually use PB less for brainstorming or relationship layout, and much more as a PIM.<br />
I believe that Marcus has it right, in the context of using the best tools for the job. You can use MindManager for showing and interlinking huge amounts of information, and you could use PersonalBrain for laying out workflows and brainstorming, just as you can pound a screw in with a hammer.<br />
The question is, if you already have a screwdriver, why would you want to?</p>
<p>Oh, and my feedback is based on a solid knowledge of both products and capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/#comment-1527</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops...I left out a few words:

&#039;read that I [have a] &quot;serious...&#039;
&#039;I&#039;m looking [forward] to seeing...&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops&#8230;I left out a few words:</p>
<p>&#8216;read that I [have a] &#8220;serious&#8230;&#8217;<br />
&#8216;I&#8217;m looking [forward] to seeing&#8230;&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://chock.wordpress.com/2008/07/20/marcus-vorwaller-personalbrain-vs-mindmapping/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Colin - Thanks for the link!

@Vic - I got a little excited when I first read that I &quot;serious misunderstand MindManger&quot; and that I have a &quot;simplistic view&quot; and lack a &quot;solid knowledge&quot; of the products to the point of doing them a &quot;disservice.&quot; Since those are pretty harsh criticisms, I thought you were going to give me some insight into what I was missing out on or how I could use mindmaps and PersonalBrain more effectively. Instead you only give a vague reference to ResultsManager&#039;s dashboard, brainstorming in PersonalBrain and &quot;collections of files on the nodes of MindManager maps&quot; which really leaves me wanting! I know there is overlap in the tools (I implied that in my articles) but I still don&#039;t see how I was fundamentally wrong.

I&#039;m looking to seeing exactly where I went wrong, hopefully I can learn a little from you--after all, you&#039;re the guy who runs mind-mapping.org!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Colin &#8211; Thanks for the link!</p>
<p>@Vic &#8211; I got a little excited when I first read that I &#8220;serious misunderstand MindManger&#8221; and that I have a &#8220;simplistic view&#8221; and lack a &#8220;solid knowledge&#8221; of the products to the point of doing them a &#8220;disservice.&#8221; Since those are pretty harsh criticisms, I thought you were going to give me some insight into what I was missing out on or how I could use mindmaps and PersonalBrain more effectively. Instead you only give a vague reference to ResultsManager&#8217;s dashboard, brainstorming in PersonalBrain and &#8220;collections of files on the nodes of MindManager maps&#8221; which really leaves me wanting! I know there is overlap in the tools (I implied that in my articles) but I still don&#8217;t see how I was fundamentally wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking to seeing exactly where I went wrong, hopefully I can learn a little from you&#8211;after all, you&#8217;re the guy who runs mind-mapping.org!</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Gee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Gee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Colin,
I think Vorwaller seriously misunderstands MindManager (and to a lesser extent FreeMind) as well as PersonalBrain, and gives a very simplistic view of the uses of the two classes of product.  MindManager has deep and serious use in medium-sized project management, with a small subsector of products design to interface with it - products like Gyronix ResultsManager.  These can give project managers a continually up-to date dashboard of progress.  Also, I can make a Personal Brain with no data on each node, just the name, and use it as a brainstorming tool - I have done.  And I have built collections of files on the nodes of MindManager maps (though now I use Topicscape for that, but not the free student version you reviewed yesterday).  No, IMO Vorwaller&#039;s view is not based on solid knowledge of the products and does both types a disservice, I&#039;m sorry to say.
Vic
http://www.mind-mapping.org
The master list of mind mapping &amp;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Colin,<br />
I think Vorwaller seriously misunderstands MindManager (and to a lesser extent FreeMind) as well as PersonalBrain, and gives a very simplistic view of the uses of the two classes of product.  MindManager has deep and serious use in medium-sized project management, with a small subsector of products design to interface with it &#8211; products like Gyronix ResultsManager.  These can give project managers a continually up-to date dashboard of progress.  Also, I can make a Personal Brain with no data on each node, just the name, and use it as a brainstorming tool &#8211; I have done.  And I have built collections of files on the nodes of MindManager maps (though now I use Topicscape for that, but not the free student version you reviewed yesterday).  No, IMO Vorwaller&#8217;s view is not based on solid knowledge of the products and does both types a disservice, I&#8217;m sorry to say.<br />
Vic<br />
<a href="http://www.mind-mapping.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.mind-mapping.org</a><br />
The master list of mind mapping &amp;<br />
information management software</p>
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